tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20704380.post2254646395594551135..comments2024-03-22T17:35:52.045-04:00Comments on Extra Thoughts: Phoreign Policy PhobiasLydia McGrewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00423567323116960820noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20704380.post-87359316883162006472007-09-25T20:02:00.000-04:002007-09-25T20:02:00.000-04:00Lydia--Another cliche' that dovetails with "--phob...Lydia--<BR/>Another cliche' that dovetails with "--phobic" is "demonize." To the extent that we demonize a person (such as Ahmadinejad, or Bill Clinton, or Dick Cheney, or Fidel Castro) we assign powers to them that they do not possess. We are then like children deliberately scaring themselves by imagining a boogey-man in the closet, or under the bed. <BR/>When we do the same to a whole people by calling them "Japs" or "gooks" or "camel jockeys" it is to make it more difficult for us to see them as our neighbors, and easier for us to kill them. These things are phobic and irrational. It is when we shroud our rational fear of a real situation in an irrational phobia that we overreact, or allow ourselves to rationalize great evils, such as dropping atomic bombs on civilian populations.Rodakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00077919085157653816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20704380.post-16572474658666126702007-09-25T19:45:00.000-04:002007-09-25T19:45:00.000-04:00SP, I too am very concerned about North Korea, les...SP, I too am very concerned about North Korea, less so about Pakistan, simply because they've had (by my recollection--I could be wrong) the nukes longer, so we've got something to go on as far as what they are and aren't going to do.<BR/><BR/>Iran and Korea are both saber-rattling a lot, and Iran more recently, and more aggressively. What they will or won't do, I honestly don't know. But I really just don't have any patience with the use of "___-ophobic" in this debate.<BR/><BR/>Rodak, the assumption at least is that the fear is irrational. The term would never be used except ironically by someone who thought the fear a reasonable one.<BR/><BR/>I know what phobias are like. As a matter of fact, I probably have one myself: to poison ivy. I'm hyper about it, even though I live in a very suburban sort of neighborhood and never go in the woods.<BR/><BR/>But in political discourse, the whole thing is just a short-circuiting label.Lydia McGrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00423567323116960820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20704380.post-29702944718294379862007-09-25T19:26:00.000-04:002007-09-25T19:26:00.000-04:00Lydia--As both you and SP know very well, I'm sure...Lydia--<BR/>As both you and SP know very well, I'm sure, the literal meaning of "phobia" is fear. Such terms as xenophobia and homophobia imply that persons described in those terms hate what they fear, i.e. foreigners or homosexuals. The irrationlity involved in such phobias is based on hyper-emotional states, not in mental pathology. The more we know about our enemies and thus understand their motives, the less we fear them for irrational reasons. The more we call them names and dehumanize them, the less we allow ourselves know and understand them. All of this is completely within our own control.Rodakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00077919085157653816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20704380.post-67632809131739742232007-09-25T19:07:00.000-04:002007-09-25T19:07:00.000-04:00Lydia, I think that when people use the term phobi...Lydia, I think that when people use the term phobia they usually mean prejudice rather than mental illness. Though more rigid “right thinking” people of any ideological persuasion usually think that if anyone disagrees with them, they must have a mental illness. The old Soviet Union used to put dissidents in psychiatric hospitals for precisely such a reason.<BR/><BR/>When I’m accused of being “phobic” I usually take a step back and try to see if any of the claims have validity. i.e. is my reasoning biased: I have been known to change my view on things! Most of my accusers never do. I think when you’re charged with being phobic about something it’s more likely a reflection of the prejudices of the accuser rather than the accused. I think that you have been unfairly accused of being phobic.<BR/><BR/>As for the Iranians, they are a potential threat but not a current one. Looking at it from the Iranians perspective, I feel that their analysis of the geopolitical situation leads them to the conclusion that they are eventually going to be attacked by the U.S. and such they are taking steps to put up a nuclear shield. Pakistan has nuclear weapons, its population is extremely irrationally Muslim, its population and military provide de facto support to the Taliban: I feel that they are a far more dangerous source of supply of nuclear weapons than Iran. Why isn’t the world pressuring Pakistan to get rid of its bombs? I worry about them quite a bit. North Korea, those people are bad ass loonies: I feel we are far more justified attacking them rather than Iran.The Social Pathologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12927698533626086780noreply@blogger.com